Thursday, February 02, 2012

Definition of Natural Born Citizen All About Allegiance

By Douglas V. Gibbs

In a recent email and post about understanding the eligibility issue, I indicate that Natural Born Citizen, as indicated in Section 212 of Vatell's Law of Nations, requires both parents to be citizens at the time of birth of the individual.  Kris and an anonymous commenter have left comments disagreeing with my assertion. In response, I have prepared the following:

The United States had just won their independence from Great Britain. The British considered all of the supporters in the colonies of the independence movement to be traitors. The British did not even see the Americans as victors of the Revolutionary War. Britain had pretty much thrown their hands up, and pulled out of America because of the need to address tensions with France. The British attitude was that the American attempt at self-rule was going to be a dismal failure, and those loyal to the crown, and probably many others, under the weight of the massive failure of the American experiment, were going to be begging for the British to return some time in the future.

The War of 1812 was America's second revolution. Britain had returned to regain control of the petulant children of the colonies. At that point the British had not even recognized the United States as a sovereign nation.  If the British troops, when they burned down the White House, had gotten their hands on President James Madison, they would have executed him for treason against the British Empire, because the British still considered the Americans to be British subjects.

Long before the War of 1812, as the American Revolution wound down, many of the British loyalists, or "tories," fled back to Britain. Some of them remained in The States. During the Revolution only a third of Americans supported the war effort. Another third were non-committed, and were willing to accept the resulting circumstances, no matter how the chips may fall. The final third were loyal to the British Crown, and viewed the American Revolution as an act of treason against King George. Often these people were English born, or the children of British citizens. It was the issue of divided loyalty, such as in the case of those that opposed the war, that the Founding Fathers were concerned about when debating the U.S. Constitution and determining that the executive must be Natural Born.

During the writing of the Constitution the debates in Philadelphia often centered on "allegiance." If this new federal government they were creating was going to work the participants at the highest levels of government needed to have a full allegiance to the United States. This was especially true when it came to the executive, which would be the President of the United States.

British common law in this matter did not properly address these concerns. Section 212 of Vatell's Law of Nations, which had been around since 1658, and had already been largely adopted by the Americans as a fitting definition of Natural Born Citizen, fit nicely with the need to ensure the President had no divided loyalties. Benjamin Franklin felt so strongly about the definitions in Vatell's volumes that he purchased three copies of the book. He bought one for himself, and two for the Constitutional Convention. George Washington checked out Vatell's Law of Nations from the New York Public Library in 1789, and still maintained possession of the book at the time of his death.

With spies from Britain combing the nation, simply being born on American soil was not enough, as far as the founders were concerned. When it came to guarding against the leaders of this nation having divided loyalties, the definition of Natural Born Citizen had to be more stringent than the existing one under British common law. The President needed to be fully American, with American citizens as parents at the time of birth. That was the commonly accepted definition in America at the time of the writing of the Constitution, because it was necessary to protect against the president having a divided allegiance.

Of course many of the members of the courts (a branch of government that was supposed to be the weakest of the three), and the British, disagreed with the definition. They considered themselves superior, and they considered British law superior (and contended that British law was the law the United States was still under). It was this superiority complex the founders most wanted to distance the new nation from. The United States was to be as little like the British as possible.

Under the original intent of the founders, a natural born citizen is one who upon their birth had parents that were both citizens of the United States. . . a claim Barack Obama is unable to make.

-- Political Pistachio Conservative News and Commentary

6 comments:

  1. Anonymous1:46 PM

    BECAUSE the common law was actually written into the first Constitution of the State of New York by John Jay, and the provision was that the common law was to be the law of New York state until changed by New York Statute...

    And because the common law is referred to about twenty times in the Federalist Papers, while Vattel is not even mentioned once...

    And because examples can be shown of American writers at the time using the term Natural Born Citizen the way that it was used in the common law, and no examples can be found of them using it the way that Vattel did...

    what you say is not true.

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  2. John Jay was a court minded type who leaned towards statism, and Hamilton was a monarchist. They were two of the three writers of the federalist papers. The federalist papers were simply written to convince the anti-federalists of New York to ratify the Constitution. However, the federalist papers, aside from the ones written by Madison, are not completely trustworthy. In fact, Hamilton's statist views were dominant in many of his federalist writings. The only one he nailed it with was Federalist 85. As for your opinion regarding the definition of Natural Born Citizen, it runs counter to the security needs of the nation at the time. Your claim also does not consider the fact that Franklin donated two copies of Vatell's Law of Nations to the constitutional convention for their reference. Finally, there are three legal rulings that support my definition, and none that supports yours.

    Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled:

    “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”

    Other cases, such as United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), were decided in a similar fashion, directly quoting from the Minor case:

    “At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

    Together with earlier rulings, like The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814), Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830), and Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857), the U.S. Supreme Court has made it perfectly clear: a “natural born Citizen” is one who is born to U.S. citizen parents.

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  3. Anonymous8:46 AM

    re the Minor vs Happersett quotation:

    That is a shortened quote, possibly deliberately shortened so as not to show the KEY sentence. The complete quotation reads:

    "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [88 U.S. 162, 168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. "

    When the Supreme Court says "it is not necessary to solve these doubts," that means that it is NOT MAKING A DECISION.

    The Minor vs Happersett case is not a decision on the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

    Moreover, it never discusses the term Natural Born, unlike the Wong Kim Ark case, which followed it (and hence would have OVERTURNED Minor vs Happersett, if Minor vs Happersett was a ruling, which it wasn't).

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  4. Anonymous9:11 AM

    There have been seven US presidents who had foreign parents including Obama.

    Thomas Jefferson
    Andrew Jackson
    James Buchanan
    Chester A. Arthur
    Woodrow Wilson
    Herbert Hoover
    Obama.

    Of these two fell under the grandfather clause. But the key point is that regardless of when they were born, they were loyal---–in fact, highly loyal–despite their foreign parents. In other words, there is no proof from the examples of Jefferson or Jackson (who had two foreign parents) that presidents with foreign parents would be less loyal than those with US parents.

    We do not believe such a thing today. What is the evidence--since there is nothing in writing--that the writers of the US Constitution did.

    As to the others, the ones who were not under the grandfather clause:

    Birthers claim that James Buchanan’s father was naturalized before his birth. Unfortunately, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT. No evidence at all.

    Birthers claim that Chester A. Arthur hid the fact that his father was not a US citizen. Unfortunately, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT.

    And Wilson’s and Hoover’s mothers were foreign citizens. Birthers say that they had been naturalized before the births. Actually, they were only made US citizens due to laws that made women who married US men automatically US citizens. That is hardly the same thing as being naturalized, in which you have to give up your citizenship in the foreign country and swear an oath.

    Oh, and by the way, James Madison actually wrote that there are two criteria of allegiance, birthplace and parents, but that only ONE of them applies in the USA—the PLACE of birth.

    In a speech before the House of Representatives in May of 1789, James Madison said:

    “It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general, place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.”

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  5. Anonymous, you are entertaining, but wrong. How about this. Find a federal ruling that agrees with you. You can't. It doesn't exist. Also, read the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1798. Also, almost all of your evidence applies to citizenship, not natural born citizen. You have melded the two into one. They are different, and they are different for a reason.

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  6. Doug, thanks for your very educated post on the natural born citizen issue. You are, absolutely, correct. Also, allegiance is very important. Our current president's allegiance is not to our Republic, nor, to our Constitution, which he abhors! Keep educating people; that's the way we will win our country back!

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