Tuesday, December 06, 2011

James Madison: Divine Providence

"The belief in a God All Powerful wise and good, is so essential to the moral order of the world and to the happiness of man, that arguments which enforce it cannot be drawn from too many sources nor adapted with too much solicitude to the different characters and capacities impressed with it." --James Madison, letter to Frederick Beasley, 1825

-- Political Pistachio Conservative News and Commentary

2 comments:

kris said...

You do realise that these guys were Masons, hence why we refer to them a Deists.

Masonry talks about "the Great Architect" which accommodates a range of faiths, including Islam.

It is not about professing Jesus Christ as one's saviour.

Douglas V. Gibbs said...

First, I make no mention of Christianity or Jesus Christ in this post. It is only a post about Divine Providence, or God's hand in what the founders were endeavoring. Yes, some of the founding fathers were Masons, but at that time Freemasonry was not what it became. Quite often Christians were also masons. Masonry, however, took a dark turn later, as penned by Albert Gallatin Mackey in his "The History of Freemasonry" (I own the book and have read it, by the way). Madison had some connections, but was not necessarily a Mason, btw. As for Islam, Jefferson understood the dangers of the ideology, and refused to continue to pay tribute to the Muslim pirates, hence the reason for the first of the Barbary Wars. He owned a Koran to better understand the enemy. To address your inclusion of Islam into the "range of faiths", understand that Islam does not worship the same God as Christians and Jews as they claim. When Muhammad created his cult, the region had Christians, Jews, and Bedouin Pagans who worshiped a moon god (hence the crescent). Many of the attributes of Allah are pagan, and run in line with Lucifer of the Bible. Christianity worships a God that "so loved the world," while Allah is an angry god that requires you to sin so that he can feel good about forgiving you. When you add Sharia, it is obvious that Islam is a political ideology that masks itself as a religion with many demonic traits to it. Hitler based his beliefs on the teachings of the Grand Mufti, which makes Nazism nothing more than Islam without the religion label. Iran, by the way, was an ally of Germany, and changed its name from Persia to Iran because Iran means Aryan. Joseph Smith admired Muhammad and created Mormonism to be as much like Islam as possible. Mormonism has changed with the times to survive. Islam has not. That is among the few differences between the two. That said, some of the founders could be considered deists, some were universalists, and some were strong in the faith of Christianity. But the point of the post you commented on was none of that. It was simply that they believed in Divine Providence - and that is something deists, universalists, and Christians could all agree on. Next time you wish to say that I said it was about Jesus Christ, please make sure I did, first, please. Your knee jerk can be tiresome. Your aim was division, mine was to simply point out that Madison commented on Divine Providence. It is amazing how divisive you statists can try to be.