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During the Constitution Radio program on KCAA AM1050 on Saturday, August 2, 2014 (airs Saturday's at 2:00 pm), a border patrol agent called into the radio program to chime in on the immigration issue, and to add to my comments about the need to secure the border.
DOUG: That's not reality. Reality is that the most prosperous nation ever to grace God's green Earth, became so because of the free market system, and the United States Constitution. And when we abandon, when we abandon what works, when we try to fix what ain't broke, as some would say, you're destined for failure. Now, this is nothing new, the Founding Fathers called the redistribution of wealth "the schemes of leveling," and they called socialism, communism, whatever you want to call it, "utopianism." They, they, a lot of the founders, when they went into that constitutional convention, were nationalists. They changed their minds during the debates. And we created a federal government, not a national government. We've got a federal government, not a national government. The president is not king. The president is not all-knowing, all-powerful, and his executive orders cannot, or at least not legally, adjust legislation. He cannot do things with, or without, Congress. He cannot act extra-constitutionally, legally. He's a lawless president, we have a lawless administration, and we have a, and we have a Congress full of cowards, that are not only not willing to stand up to Barack Obama, but when I criticize them for not showing up when we were out there protesting, they don't want to meet with me anymore. That's what we are up against.
[book of the week segment, Constitution Quest Question of the Week segment regarding Standing Armies and the Militia, including the Governor's constitutional allowance to call the National Guard into service.]
That all said, we have a caller. A caller. Caller, you are on the air, welcome to the show.
CALLER: Hello.
DOUG: Hi, Yeah, I'm Here.
CALLER: Hey, I wanna talk to you about border security.
DOUG: Okay.
CALLER: I'm a border patrol agent, so you're probably gonna be a little shocked that I am going to tell you that in my opinion the key to border security is not putting the National Guard down there, and it is not securing the border. That's part of it.
DOUG: Enforcing the law would be a part of it, too.
CALLER: Right, no, I not saying we shouldn't do that. But everyone - or most people are under the assumption that that is the key. Secure the border, then we can deal with the rest.
DOUG: Okay.
CALLER: Well, before, you know, before we can actually secure the border we need to deal with what everyone else calls 'the rest' - giving illegals 'things.' We've gotta quit giving them things.
DOUG: Oh, absolutely.
CALLER: Otherwise, they're gonna come through tunnels like they are in Nogales, they're gonna go, come up the coast, in panga boats like they are along San Diego and landing up in Ventura County, ah, they're gonna find a way. So, you really can't ever secure the border until we stop giving people stuff.
DOUG: Well, you know, that's actually a great point. And, and, and, I wanna use Arizona as an example. Before Arizona got sued for trying to protect its own State, um, with the Immigration Law, what happened after they passed that law and they began to work to enforce that law through State agencies?
CALLER: Are you saying what happened before hand?
DOUG: No, what happened after they did that. What happened with the flow of immigrants into Arizona after they put that law into place?
CALLER: Oh, yeah, they all started comin' over here.
DOUG: Exactly. Exactly. So, so you make a great point. And, and, and when I say secure the border, I do believe that, but absolutely, we have a welfare system that's unsustainable as it is. Now, if we're going to start also handing stuff out to people that didn't even pay into it, ah, not only is it attracting them into our country, even in the larger numbers, but it also becomes even more so unsustainable.
CALLER: Right.
DOUG: So, it, it, for me enforcing the border, and securin' the border, for me also, it's a national security issue. We've got, like I mentioned earlier, we've got groups like ISIS who want a direct confrontation with us, but also, let me bring this up. Um, during this Murrieta crisis I wound up on TV a few times because I, um, you know, kinda was in the right place at the right time. And what I said on television was this: first of all, to kinda diffuse the idea that I might be some racist white guy, uh, my wife was born in Mexico, her family immigrated here legally when she was a child, she had a green card when we got married. She naturalized back in 2007, it took her about three years to go through the process. Um, it's a slap in her face, first of all. Second of all, and this is, this is, this is the big one here, now, this is, this is my main reason for wanting to secure the border, and get this taken care of. This is one of my primary reasons. Protect the receiving population. My granddaughter, four weeks before those protests, because these, these aliens were coming into the area over an eight month period. Just not in the large numbers. It was smaller numbers in the middle of the night. That kind of thing. Ah.
CALLER: Actually longer than that, but...
DOUG: Well, well, that we know of. Probably longer. But anyway, uh, my granddaughter was, was, my son took her into the doctor's and she was diagnosed with having hand and foot disease, which is not common. In fact, there had not been any cases in this, in Murrieta, and the doctor says, and and, and I'm not kidding, this is what my son told me, he told him, "I don't understand, we have all of these hand and foot disease cases comin' in and it's spiking, I don't understand why." Well, I immediately put two and two together and that's when I started investigating and got involved with the Murrieta, you know, deal that was going on. Um, I was one of the early people in the early protests. And anyway, um, I wasn't an organizer, I just so happened to know the right people is really what it came down to. But anyway, that said, so for me, it was about health and safety, and as a border patrol agent, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
CALLER: Oh, absolutely.
DOUG: Because we've got, what, a third of them have scabies, you've got TB crossing the border, and other things that, you know, we had eradicated from the United States. Polio, Small Pox, whatever. So this is, ya know, this is about protecting the receiving population. Am I even close here?
CALLER: Oh, you're right, you're right in all the things, but, ah, you know, obviously the terrorists are gonna come here, they're not motivated by things, ya know, stuff, driver's licenses, um, welfare, free schooling, so, you know, for sure we need to secure the border to keep those guys out. And, and everyone else as well, but I'm just saying for the vast majority of illegals that come here. . .
DOUG: It's the free stuff.
CALLER: Because they can get things, they are still going to figure out a way.
ALEX: Let me say that concomitant with that, is that we allow employers to employ these people, of course they pay 'em sub-standard wages, as such as that. But the point is that when Reagan originally signed that 1986 law the idea was that we were going to fine employers to the point where it would break the company if they, if they continued doing it. We haven't done that, so we've got nothing but magnets, it's like feedin' popcorn to pigeons in the park. You keep feeding them the popcorn and they keep comin'.
CALLER: Oh, absolutely correct, and, uh, you know, we used to get good cooperation out of Riverside County Sheriff, I'm kinda giving away, maybe, what area I'm in, but that's okay, uh, but over time California, the State of California, has put a lot of pressure on them, so they're not really helping, helping us with interior enforcement. So we're getting that gutted. Like you said, they're not enforcing the employment laws, um, so, ah, I guess what my main concern is, and this isn't geared towards you guys, I think a lot of the RINOs will say, "Well, I'm for securing the border," and then they think that's okay, well, in my opinion, I think it's a smoke screen, because. . .
DOUG: Well, well, there's obviously more to it. There's always more layers to an onion. There always is. Ah, you're exactly right, I'm not disputing what you're saying, you're exactly right, and that's a very, very, very large part of it, and that would not just be treatin' the symptoms like what they're doing with legislation, that would be a part of solving the problem. So...
ALEX: We've gotta stop electing politicians who are not on our side.
DOUG: Well, let me say this real quick, also, real quick - because this is a border patrol agent. First, of all, thank you for what you do. It's a thankless job. But, thank you. Ah.
CALLER: Appreciate that.
DOUG: Second, of all, one of the things the Murrieta people did was that we had a Murrieta Border Patrol Appreciation Day, uh, that we did back on the 24th, where we basically did a giant pot luck and we fed the border patrol agents, that shift, the outgoing, and the incoming shift, and then the food was hopefully leftover and saved for the other shifts. And that was the way we could say thank you. Now here's the thing that was important about that, that I really didn't think about until afterwards, is that, see, and I don't know how long you you've been with Border Patrol, if you remember this or not, but, ah, back in 1992 there had been a border patrol chase of a van full of illegals through Temecula, and it had gone in front of Temecula High School, and what wound up happening was a couple of children and a father was killed as a result. And the opinion of the border patrol by the local residents was not good. For the citizens to rally around the Border Patrol to support the Border Patrol - because we weren't out there protesting the Border Patrol, we were out there supporting the Border Patrol, we were protesting what was going on, what the federal government was doing. . .
CALLER: Thank you for that.
DOUG: And for us to be out there in support of the Border Patrol, and tell them "We're behind you, we love you, we thank you," ah, well, let's just say that, uh, agents that remember 1992, it meant a lot to them. And so, you know, and the message I want to put out there for all my listeners is we support the Border Patrol, we support what they're doing, they have a thankless job, thank God you guys are out there, you're trying to do something that, you're not even, you're having tools taken away from you, and, and, and you all, you wanna keep your job, obviously, and follow orders, but on the same token, when we were out there protesting, as, as, I don't mean you guys as in you, but you guys in the sense of border patrol personnel, as they were going home and coming in in their cars, they were wavin', they were honkin', they were thanking us for what we were doing. So, there's a lot of love for the Border Patrol.
ALEX: That's another example of the media twisting things around. To blame the Border Patrol because some coyote has got a van full of people, and he, he speeds through an intersection, and kills a couple of people, that is not the Border Patrol's fault. To, to, to blame them, is a complete and deliberate misdirection, and it's evil.
DOUG: Well, well, that's what they do. Um, the guest, uh, the caller on the phone, we're getting ready to go to break so I wanna give you the last, uh, the final word on this.
CALLER: Okay, I just wanna say Amen to the other gentleman's last point on, we're always blamed for pursuing, when, he's right, the coyotes are the ones that choose to, you know, flee from us, uh, but yeah, we're always blamed for that. Uh, and I just want, whoever's listening, just to be careful, don't let politicians get away with saying we just need to secure the border, it's, it's a cop-out in my opinion, smokescreen, because they don't want to solve the full problem.
DOUG: Amen, brother. I appreciate it, thanks for the call, thanks for listening, I hope you become a regular listener.
CALLER: I think I will, I like, I enjoy your sta - your ah, your show, and I appreciate all the good work you are doing as well.
DOUG: I appreciate it, thank you, sir. And with that said, let's go to break, we'll be back with the 5 Big Stories of the Week.
(After the Break we continued for a moment regarding the conversation with the Border Patrol Agent)
DOUG: And, welcome back, Constitution Radio with Douglas V. Gibbs, and I was just talkin' to Alex, and what a great call, now, I just love having callers like that, what a fantastic call, thank you, sir, for your service, and the Border Patrol, thank you for spending time on the radio program, and uh, notice there was no name, or anything, because, you know, these guys, they, they really can't be political, and all that, it's like when we did the Murrieta Appreciation Day at the Border Patrol Station, couldn't take pictures, couldn't ask the personnel, you know, anything political, that kind of stuff. And I get it, I understand that. But, on the same token, I'm gonna tell you right now, uh, when those Murrieta protests, and the civil disobedience, was going on, to turn those buses around, the Border Patrol agents were right there with us, uh, in, in heart and spirit. Uh, they, uh, they, they, supported the citizens, and, and like I said, especially since in the past there had been that kind of sour note with what had happened in Temecula in '92, it was so appreciated. And, uh, and we appreciate them right back. And, so, uh, I can't say enough about how I love these guys, and, uh, I actually have a couple friends that are retired Border Patrol, and an acquaintance, um, down in San Diego, whose an agent, and, um, I can't say enough for what these guys do. Go ahead, Alex.
ALEX: I think, I think it's important that we remember that Brian Terry was shot down, dead in the desert, and that at this point the trafficantes have .50 caliber sniper rifles, and they've been firing them across the Rio Grande River at our Border Patrol agents, there hasn't, apparently, there's been no reaction to that, there's been no support for them. But these guys are risking their neck every time they step outta their, out of their van.
DOUG: And in response to the Border Patrol agent's comments on this radio program, Chris up there in Northern California says, "Yeah, stop giving illegals incentives to come here illegally."
Exactly.
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